Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:57:47 +1200
From: "Terry's mail" <termon@xtra.co.nz>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] John Draffin's wedding chapel

I am trying to decipher a marriage entry at Barony. 
Would "Relief Chapel Tollcross" be correct?
If so, what is a Relief Chapel?

Terry
Auckland, New Zealand.
termon@xtra.co.nz



Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:28:26 +0100
To: termon@xtra.co.nz
Subject: John Draffin's wedding chapel
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

> I am trying to decipher a marriage entry at Barony. Would "Relief 
Chapel Tollcross" be correct?

Between 1806 and 1847, yes. From 1847 - 1900 it was Tollcross Main 
Street United Presbyterian Church, from 1900 - 1929, it was the United 
Free Church, and in 1929 became Tollcross Central, Church of Scotland, 
since destroyed by fire. Prior to 1806 there may have been a Relief 
Church congregation meeting in other premises in Tollcross but that is 
the year when the church was built.

> If so, what is a Relief Chapel?

A church in membership of the Relief Church, created in 1761 "for the 
relief of oppressed Christian congregation" when some Church of 
Scotland members split over the question of patronage. Merged in 1847 
with the Secession Church to form the united Presbyterian church. etc. 
etc.

It was a "chapel" because it was not the parish church of the 
Established Church.

hth

Josh



From: "Terry's mail" <termon@xtra.co.nz>
To: <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: John Draffin's wedding chapel
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:07:08 +1200
 
Hi Josh,
you wrote:

> > I am trying to decipher a marriage entry at Barony. Would "Relief 
>> Chapel Tollcross" be correct?
> Between 1806 and 1847, yes. 
That's it: the wedding was 1833

<snip>

> hth
It does. Thanks very much.

Terry
Auckland, New Zealand.
termon@xtra.co.nz



Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:42:10 +0100
From: "dianne.harlow" <dianne.harlow@ntlworld.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] Braidfauld Villa, Braidfauld Street

Hi,

Can anyone on the list give me any information on Braidfauld Villa, 
Braidfauld Street.

This property was listed in the 1881 Census for the Shettleston area 
as being occupied by the McEwan family and I believe my great-great aunt 
was a domestic servant for them.  Her name was Helen CARMICHAEL.

I would be grateful to know if the building still exists and what it's 
present use is.

Thanks

Dianne - Leicester, England.



Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:36:33 +0100
To: dianne.harlow@ntlworld.com
Subject: Braidfauld Villa, Braidfauld Street
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:42:10 +0100
> From: "dianne.harlow" <dianne.harlow@ntlworld.com>
> To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
> Subject: [LKS] Braidfauld Villa, Braidfauld Street
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone on the list give me any information on Braidfauld Villa, 
     Braidfauld Street.
.. 
> I would be grateful to know if the building still exists and what it's 
     present use is.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dianne - Leicester, England.

I don't know if you received an answer to this query already but 
I passed down Braidfauld St today on a bus and can confirm only 
one of the old stone buildings is still standing - a block of 
four flats immediately south of Braidfauld Gardens, unlikely to 
have been known as Braidfauld Villa.

The rest of the houses were demolished and replaced with flats 
in the late 1960s / early 1970s.

hth

Josh



From: "dianne.harlow" <dianne.harlow@ntlworld.com>
To: <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Braidfauld Villa, Braidfauld Street
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:53:29 +0100
 
Hi Josh,

Thanks for the info - you were the only reply I got - it's nice to know it
is still standing and I can perhaps get a look at it when I am next up
there!

Thanks once again!

Dianne



Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 07:32:40 +0100
To: dianne.harlow <dianne.harlow@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Braidfauld Villa, Braidfauld Street
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

> 
> - it's nice to know it is still standing 
> 

Sorry, Dianne, I must learn to circumscribe my orotundity. <G>

The gist of the message was that Braidfauld Villa is gone, demolished in the 
1960s.

Sorry about that.

Josh



From: "dianne.harlow" <dianne.harlow@ntlworld.com>
To: <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Braidfauld Villa, Braidfauld Street
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:05:00 +0100
 
Hi Josh!

Oh well, never mind!  Hopefully now I can locate a photograph from somewhere
of how it used to look!

Thanks once again,

Dianne



Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:45:55 -0800
From: "Maureen Mackenzie" <maureenmackenzie@home.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com

I am trying to find some information on my great-grandfather, William WHYTE, 
born 1825 and died 1916. He was the schoolmaster of Roughazie School
 in Shettleston from 1845 - 1889. He married first, Agnes BAIRD and secondly  
 Mary YOUNG from Kilwinning. He had 21 children and I would be interested to 
 know if there are any WHYTES out there who claim William as an ancestor.

Maureen Mackenzie
British Columbia



Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:19:42 GMT
To: maureenmackenzie@home.com
Subject: RE: [LKS] William Whyte - Roughazie
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

Maureen Mackenzie wrote:
> I am trying to find some information on my great-grandfather, 
> William WHYTE, born 1825 and died 1916. He was the schoolmaster 
> of Roughazie School in Shettleston from 1845 - 1889. He married 
> first, Agnes BAIRD and secondly  Mary YOUNG from Kilwinning. 
> He had 21 children and I would be interested to know if there 
> are any WHYTES out there who claim William as an ancestor.
> 
> Maureen Mackenzie
>

Current spelling, Ruchazie, part of Easterhouse.

You may already know this but FWIW

1861 Census of Shettleston, Division 2 (which included the 
Village of Roughazie), Enumerator - William Whyte (Schoolmaster 
of Roughazie)

1871 Census of Shettleston, Division 4 (which did not include the 
Village of Roughazie), Enumerator - William Whyte

1881 Census of Shettleston, Division 4 (which did not include the 
Village of Roughazie), Enumerator - William Whyte

1851 & 1891 Census of Shettleston - not an enumerator.

That's all I know about him. 

hth

Josh


Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:59:16 -0800
From: "Maureen Mackenzie" <maureenmackenzie@home.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] William Whyte - Roughazie

Josh
Thank you for the census information and the current spelling of  Roughazie.
I have a painting, done about 1920 of the old Ruchazie School House, and a
small book, printed in 1920, called, "Ruchazie. A District and a School in
the Provan." My g.grandfather is mentioned because he was one of the last
Parochial Schoolmasters in Scotland. I hope one day to return to Scotland
and visit Sandymount Cemetery where his tombstone is set to look towards
Ruchazie.
Thank you again.
Maureen --
>



Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:51:43 EST
From: JBree87700@aol.com
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] Greenfield/Pricliemuir...

In a message dated 11/13/00 3:04:04 PM, LANARK-D-request@rootsweb.com writes:

<< Prickliemuir >>

Hi,  I found Shettleston just fine, but Greenfield escapes me unless it's up 
in the Highlands and I don't find Prickliemuir at all!  Could you tell me 
where these are?  tx,  Jim



Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:10:22 +1100
From: "Ella Ross" <rosske@one.net.au>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Greenfield/Pricliemuir...

Dear Jim,
Until I was eleven years old I lived at 418 Old Shettleston Road, opposite
Shettleston football park.  Behind the football park ran the railway line.
Beyond the railway line was Greenfield, just the burn and fields, beyond
that again was Lightburn.  After WW11 the green fields were built on and a
Corporation housing scheme was built.  We called it  Greenfield but in my
latest Glasgow map it is shown as Springboig.
Ella Ross, Sydney



Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 07:30:24 GMT
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Greenfield/Pricliemuir...

Jim wrote:
> Hi,  I found Shettleston just fine, but Greenfield escapes me unless it's up 
> in the Highlands and I don't find Prickliemuir at all!  Could you tell me 
> where these are?  tx,  Jim
>

Greenfield is still where Ella said and is named on the map I have. Springboig 
is further to the east. Between the two is Budhill where the Prick(l)ie(s)muir 
Pit was located, about 100 yards north of the present Shettleston (railway) 
Station. The pit closed over 100 years ago and its name is unlikely to appear 
on any modern map. <G>

hth

Josh



Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:43:09 +1100
From: "Ella Ross" <rosske@one.net.au>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Greenfield/Pricliemuir...

Dear Josh, Shettleston is certainly still there.  I visited last year.  My
mother was born in Budhill and her father was a miner.  Of course
Shettleston is still standing or precariously balancing on top of hundreds
of old mines.  I have some marvellous books on Shettleston with wonderful
photos that I bought in 1990 at the People's Palace.
Thanks for bringing up the memories.
Ella Ross, now of Sydney Australia.
It is so wet here today it remimded me of an awful wet day last year in
Edinburgh.



Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:24:41 -0000
From: "Duncan McIntosh" <duncan@mcintosh1943.freeserve.co.uk>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] villages of glasgow 2

  Villages of Glasgow  2

  Below is a list of areas, now within Glasgow, which were once independent 
  villages. Use only as a rough guide as the facts have not been given other
  than very basic scrutiny. It means to serve as a guide only to help those 
  not familiar with the area. There are many districts/ areas in Glasgow not 
  mentioned here. Perhaps listers with better sources could give more accurate 
  detail.

  North of River Clyde.  

  Anderston-18th c. , part of Glasgow 1846
  Bridgeton -18th c.,  part of Glasgow 1846
  Calton - 18th c,        part of Glasgow 1846 
  Camlachie pre 18th c, part of Glasgow 1846
  Parkhead pre 18th c, part of Glasgow 1846
  Maryhill 18th c,  part of Glasgow 1891
  Springburn 19th c part of Glasgow 1891
  Tollcross 18th c ; part of Glasgow ? (probably by 1846)

  All of above were always in Lanarkshire and part of Barony Parish 

  Partick 12th c,  part of Glasgow 1912  (Once part of Govan parish, 
  also in Lanarkshire but parts may have also been in Dunbartonshire) 
  Shettleston pre 16th c, part of Glasgow 1912 always in Lanarkshire and in 
  Barony Parish
   
  South of River Clyde

  Gorbals 13th c (aka Little Govan /Brigend ) Part of Glasgow 1846 but always 
  had strong ties with Glasgow and was used as a leper colony. Always in 
  Lanarkshire, once part of Govan parish and then became a parish in its own 
  right. 
  Govanhill 18thc part of Glasgow 1891 once in Renfrewshire
  Langside 16th c. part of Glasgow 1891 once in Renfrewshire

  Govan pre 10th c (aka Meikle Govan) part of Glasgow 1812 Parish in own right, 
  always in Lanarkshire
  Cathcart 12th c, part of Glasgow 1912 once in Renfrewshire
  Pollockshaws 17th c,  part of Glasgow 1912 once in Renfrewshire

  Cardonald 15th  part of Glasgow 1926 once in Renfrewshire
  Hurlet 19th c, part of Glasgow 1926 once in Renfrewshire
  Nitshill 19thc. part of Glasgow 1926 once in Renfrewshire 

  Crossmyloof pre 17th c ,  probably joined Glasgow by 1912 once in Renfrewshire 
  Polmadie 12th c, probably joined Glasgow by 1846,? if ever in Renfrewshire 
  Strathbungo 18th c. probably joined Glasgow by 1891, ? if ever in Renfrewshire

  


Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:40:04 GMT
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com

Duncan McIntosh wrote:

> Tollcross 18th c ; part of Glasgow ? (probably by 1846)

Most of it in 1912 when Glasgow expanded to include the greater part of 
the Parish of Shettleston. However, the new city boundary (following 
the old boundary between Shettleston and Old Monkland parishes at that 
point) left most of Causewayside St and Easterhill St in Lanarkshire 
until 1976 though the locals consider them to be in Tollcross.

Josh



Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:27:07 -0000
From: "Duncan McIntosh" <duncan@mcintosh1943.freeserve.co.uk>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] villages of glasgow  (update tollcross, Gorbals)



Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:40:47 +1100
From: "Jwerjl" <jwerjl@bigpond.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] Camlachie  Tollerop   Mile End

William and Mary Eadie (from post-nuptial contract) were living in Camlachie in 
1847 in a house "bordered on the south by the High Road from Glasgow to 
Tollerop". The road is also referred to as a toll road. 
There is also reference to a property "being part of the enclosure or park 
sometime ago laid out for building the village of Mile End".

We also have some street names but we have to start from scratch and of course the 
village names have disappeared into Glasgow so would appreciate info on where 
Camlachie and Tollerop were and if Mile End was ever a village. 

Thanks.  John Edmonds  Moriac  Vic.  Australia



Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:45:03 GMT
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Camlachie  Tollerop   Mile End

"Jwerjl" <jwerjl@bigpond.com> wrote

> We also have some street names but we have to start from scratch and 
> of course the village names have disappeared into Glasgow so would 
> appreciate info on where Camlachie and Tollerop were and if Mile End 
> was ever a village. 
> 
> Thanks.  John Edmonds  Moriac  Vic.  Australia

Tollerop will be Tollcross with the archaic "fs" for the "ss" at the 
end.

Head east from Glasgow Cross along the Gallowgate and you pass through 
Calton and Camlachie to Parkhead Cross, then continue on Tollcross Road 
to Tollcross, total distance a bit over 3 miles. 

"The small village of Mile-end which stretched from Bridgeton Cross 
towards Camlachie with Broad Street as it's main artery, also became a 
centre for a variety of industries including potteries, carpet weaving, 
food processing, ironfounding, chemical works and engineering."
Villages of Glasgow Vol 1, Aileen Smart, pub John Donald, Edinburgh.

Oddly enough, I had never heard the name until a year or so ago I 
noticed a couple of mock boulders by the side of London Road with 
lettering "Mile End Quarter", I'd always thought of that area as just 
part of Bridgeton. Now the name crops up everywhere. <G>

hth

Josh
Glasgow



From: "Jwerjl" <jwerjl@bigpond.com>
To: <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
Subject: Camlachie etc!
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:37:38 +1100

Josh, 
 
Thanks, beaut. I've had a few responses but you win the prize if there was one! 
Tollcross still looks like Tollerop to my aged eyes but of course you are 
correct, and it was probably perfectly clear to my ancestors. 
 
And you are the only one who came up with Mile End. In the marriage contract 
it reads almost as though it had been a failed village proposal but that may 
be just me remembering what sometimes happens to housing developments. 
 
My mother lived in Clincarthill Road, Rutherglen, and in the downloaded aerial 
photo the house seems to be still there so that will be great to look at. 
She was a public health nurse in the Gorbals, a military hospital nurse 
during WW1, and came out in 1922 and became a Bush Nurse; quite something 
for a wee Scottish lassie. 
 
Please excuse the bit of waffle and thanks again. 
 
John



Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:40:52 +1100
From: "Jwerjl" <jwerjl@bigpond.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] Camlachie  Tollerop  Mile End

Thanks to several for the very helpful responses to my query. 
Tollerop was my reading of the 1800s Tollcross!!!

John,   Moriac  Vic.  Australia



Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:23:14 GMT
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] DUNIGAN, Shettleston, 1841 onward

Does anyone have an interest in two DUNIGAN/DONEGAN households dwelling 
in the Cotton Land, Shettleston in the mid 19th century. Probably all 
Roman Catholics.

I have a DUNIGAN family who appear in Girvan, Ayrshire about 1810, John 
(a weaver, probably born in Ireland) and Ann (m.s. CAMPBELL) with 
children John (1809, OPR) and Sarah (c1811) - my gggrandmother.

Sarah married James McGEE and they were living in Back Row, Shettleston 
in 1851. Then -

1855 Ann McGEE married Patrick LYNCH at Dalbeth, witnesses William 
DONAGHEY and Elizabeth DUNIGAN.

1860 Henry McGee married Margaret BURNS (or Binns) at Eastmuir, 
witnesses Thos DUNIGAN and Margaret CONNELLY.

Both Elizabeth and Thomas are names in one of the Shettleston Dunigan 
households but their father's parents were Thomas Dunigan and Elizabeth 
MARLIE.

The other Dunigan's have head John who vanishes before 1861 and didn't 
die in Shettleston after 1854 but two of his daughters' death 
certificates name his wife as Catherine CAIRNEY/CARNIE.

I failed to find the death of Bernard DUNIGAN, son of John, who 
vanishes in the 1860s, and am running out of ideas to connect these 
families. So, If you recognise anything in the above, please get in 
touch.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Josh
Glasgow
-- 
Also interested in:-
REYNOLDS, Eastmuir 1851-71; HOUSTON, Middlequarter 1871;
CONNOLLY, Sandyhills 1851-69, Eastmuir 1871-81;



Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 07:24:37 GMT
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Info please on a Victoria - Tallcross Church

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:58:06 EST SandraDashwood@aol.com wrote -

>> Please could some one give me some info the CHURCH Called VICTORIA 
TALLCROSS church of Scotland,

>> is this church still standing i was informed it had burned down ???

Tollcross Victoria still stands. What burned recently was the old 
church at the back of the Kirk used as a hall this many years.

Tollcross Free Church was built in Causewayside Street in 1867. In 
1900, (most of) the Free Church merged with the United Presbyterian 
Church, who also had a presence in Tollcross (since 1806), to form the 
United Free Church. So the Free Church congregation became Tollcross 
Victoria and the UP Church congregation became Tollcross Central. 

In 1902, a new building was opened for Tollcross Victoria on ground 
between the old church and Main Street (now Tollcross Road) and the old 
church became the church hall.

In 1927, the United Free Church merged back into the Church of 
Scotland.

hth

Josh
-- 

  
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:56:32 EST
From: SchafferLabs@aol.com
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] Bogleshole

I have an extract stating that my relative was born Bogleshole, Tollcross.  
Can anyone please tell me anything about this place. Many thanks, Sheila in 
California



Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 06:59:12 +0100
To: Lanark-L@rootsweb.com
Cc: SchafferLabs@aol.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Bogleshole
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:56:32 EST Sheila wrote

> I have an extract stating that my relative was born Bogleshole, Tollcross.  
> Can anyone please tell me anything about this place.

Bogleshole appears as a country estate on the banks of the Clyde on a map of 
1795, just upstream of the Clyde Iron Works. By the 1950s, most of it had 
disappeared under a slag tip. In the censuses for the late 19th century that I 
have looked at, it is never more than a handful of houses tacked on to the 
village of Clyde Iron Works but I'm sorry, I don't remember whether the 
occupiers were agricultural or iron workers or miners.

About 1990, a light industrial estate was developed on the site known, 
perversely, as Cambuslang Investment Park.

If you are looking for records in Scotland, be aware that the bulk of 
Tollcross is in Barony Parish (622) until 1854 then Shettleston 
Parish/District (622/3 until 1874 then 622/2) and became part of Glasgow in 
1912 while Bogleshole is in Old Monkland (652) until 1854 then Old Monkland 
West (652/1) and didn't join Glasgow until 1975.

Not a lot but I hope it helps.

Josh
-- 

  
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:21:23 EDT
From: SchafferLabs@aol.com
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] Bogleshole

Thank you very very much I now have a place to start looking. Thank you for 
taking the time to respond.S Dixon


Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:33:31 +1200
From: "annkarin" <annkarin@xtra.co.nz>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] Catholic Chapels Lightburn Shettleston 1880 + occupations

Hello again from New Zealand
I now have a marriage cert from General Register of Scotland.   
However I am having difficulty reading it.    Help please 
with:-
!.    The name of a Roman Catholic Chapel East????   
      She lived in Lightburn Shettleston and he  Glebe Road.

2. A job which looks like Steam S??m Weaver

3. What was a Shoemaker Master?    
  On the other side of the family was a Shoemaker Journeyman

TIA Ann
annkarin@xtra.co.nz


  
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 07:02:32 +0100
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Cc: annkarin@xtra.co.nz
Subject: Re: [LKS] Catholic Chapels Lightburn Shettleston 1880 + occupations
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

on Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:33:31 +1200 Ann wrote

> !.    The name of a Roman Catholic Chapel East????   She lived in 
> Lightburn Shettleston and he  Glebe Road.

St Paul's RC Chapel, Eastmuir (now St Paul's, Shettleston). Fr George 
McBrearty was the priest at that time.

> 2. A job which looks like Steam S??m Weaver

Steam Loom Weaver. There were a lot of them around.

> 3. What was a Shoemaker Master?    On the other side of the family 
> was a Shoemaker Journeyman

Master worked on his own account, possibly employing others. Journeyman 
might be equally skilled but was employed by someone else.

hth

Josh
-- 
Interested in COLVIN, McGEE & McHALE in Lightburn circa 1880



Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:23:35 +1000 (EST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Toni=20Coupland?= <spirochaus@yahoo.com.au>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LKS] District of Barony 1856

Hi All,

Am looking for the birth date of a James Hamilton born in Barony abt. 1856.  
There doesn`t seem to be any lists for Barony for that year, so, 
did it have another name or was it part of another area at that time and if so, 
could someone please tell me in which area I should be looking.

Thanking one and all,

Regards,

Toni

 

Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 06:56:43 +0100
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Cc: spirochaus@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [LKS] District of Barony 1856
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>

On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:23:35 +1000 (EST) Toni Coupland  
<Spirochaus@yahoo.com.au> wrote -

> Am looking for the birth date of a James Hamilton born in Barony 
> abt. 1856.  There doesn`t seem to be any lists for Barony 
> for that year, so, did it have another name or was it part of 
> another area at that time and if so, could someone please tell 
> me in which area I should be looking.

For civil registration purposes from 1855, Barony Parish was split in 
three - Maryhill (622/1), Springburn (622/2) and Shettleston (622/3).

Have fun <g>

hth

Josh
-- 

  
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 08:27:17 -0400
From: "Mark Echelberger" <mtemail@earthlink.net>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] District of Barony 1856

Josh,

You sent a very helpful reply saying: 

> For civil registration purposes from 1855, Barony
 Parish was split in three - Maryhill (622/1), 
Springburn (622/2) and Shettleston (622/3).> 

In which registration area would Calton be found?

Thanks,
Ginny


  
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:59:44 +0100
From: Josh Reynolds <JoshReynolds@compuserve.com>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] District of Barony 1856

Hi Mark,

on Sun, 21 Apr 2002 08:27:17 -0400 you wrote

> In which registration area would Calton be found?

Calton became part of Glasgow in 1846 and is 644/4 for civil 
registration purposes (from 1855 on).
In the census of 1851 it was still under Barony in several sections 
starting with 622/592.

A list of all the civil registration districts can be found somewhere 
among the free pages at Scots Origins (http://www.origins.net).

hth

Josh
-- 

  
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:27:09 -0400
From: "Mark Echelberger" <mtemail@earthlink.net>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LKS] District of Barony 1856

Thank you Josh!

Now for another related question. After looking at the
 Mitchell Library's virtual collection of photographs
 www.mitchellibrary.org, I found some of the captions
 for the Cumberland St pictures listed it in 
Hutchesontown and others identified it in Calton.
 Was Hutchesontown originally part of Calton--just
 on the other side of the Clyde? Or, were there two
 Cumberland Streets? One picture I am referring to
 is says "94-108 Cumberland Street Housing: caption
 also refers to 7 Greenhead St and 45-55 William St--
Area: Calton, Date c. 1902"

I'm trying to get my bearings.

Ginny
in Virginia, USA

> > In which registration area would Calton be found?
> 
> Calton became part of Glasgow in 1846 and is 
644/4 for civil registration purposes (from 1855 on).

In the census of 1851 it was still under Barony in 
several sections starting with 622/592.
> 
> A list of all the civil registration districts can be 
found somewhere among the free pages at Scots
 Origins (http://www.origins.net).

 

  
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:18:24 +0100
From: "duncan mcintosh" <duncan@mcintosh1943.freeserve.co.uk>
To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Fw: [LKS] District of Barony 1856

Yes there were two Cumberland Streets. The original was in the Bridgeton/
Calton area in the East End and North of the River Clyde. The newer one was
in the Gorbals area to the south and just opposite banks of the Clyde.
When all the surrounding areas were incorporated into Glasgow many Streets
were renamed. For example there were once several High Sts and Main Sts.

Gorbals /Hutchesontown is not far from Bridgeton and Calton. Glasgow was
very densely populated and was never big in area. A two mile radius from
city centre would cover just about every area you hear of in Glasgow in the
the 1850-1900 period.

The old names remained but it is hard for even Glaswegians to distinguish
when one area stops and another starts. Some are no more than a hundred
yards long or so but they were all densely populated. Cumberland St alone in
the Gorbals must had a population of 5,000 or perhaps more. Many single
tenements had over 200 in them.

Greenhead St is in Bridgeton/ Calton.